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Since: Apr 26, 2007 Posts: 303
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:54 am
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Since: Jan 12, 2007 Posts: 115
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:57 pm
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friesian DeleteThis @zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> On Jun 29, 7:23 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk... DeleteThis @tessco.net> wrote:
>> Conrad wrote:
>>> Hi Frank,
>>
>>> On Jun 27, 10:50 am, "Frank Arthur" <A... DeleteThis @Arthurian.com> wrote:
>>>>> I often open my Jpg. files in Raw so I can work on them in
>>>>> Photoshop CS3.<<
>>
>>> I also like the 'temperture' adjustment for JPEG files with the RAW
>>> tools.
>>
>> But does it really let you do anything extra that can't be acchieved
>> in Jpeg RGB or LAB mode?
>
> Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and then
> save them with new names without typing in the repeated names?
Tat's a *batch* of jpeg files you say?
You did say the word *Batch* didn't you?
> For
> example, when I open a batch of RAW files,
So we're definitely talking about renaming a *batch* of files.
There's definitely no mistake that we're daling with batches here.
> I will make any corrections
> if needed, and I will save them with a new name. I photograph animals,
> so I save them with their name and a number. I can set the program to
> tell it what folder I want to save it in, what name, and a number
> serious. I only have to type the name once.
>
> So, far with jpgs, I have not found a silar way to do this. There is
> some type of batch function, but I do not want to automatically save
> all of the files. I want to choose which ones I will save. If I
> rename a batch, I ould then have to delete the ones I don't want to
> keep, and that would leave gaps in the numbers. I do not want that.
But hang on, rewind a bit there.
In your first paragraph you said you DID want to do this to a batch of Jpeg
files....
Or did I imagine you using the word *batch*?
Make up your mind.
> Also, I do not want to rename the orginal file. I want to save a new
> copy of the file and save the original.
>
> I would love to have the same dialog window to work with when saving
> jpgs as I do when saving RAW files.
Use your actions pallette.
Record the process as you do whatever is necessary to one file.
Then access the newly recorded action through your File>Automate menu.
This will allow you to batch process all the files in a pre-determined
location.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:03 pm
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In article <1183282120.726403.37740.TakeThisOut@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
"friesian@zoocrewphoto.com" <friesian.TakeThisOut@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote:
> Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and then
> save them with new names without typing in the repeated names?
Check out Renamer4mac at:
<http://www.power4mac.com/>
Does what you want and is free.
--
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! (it comes bundled with the software)
Bob in Central CA >> Stay informed about: I open Jpg. files in Raw |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:15 am
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On Jul 1, 8:40 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk... DeleteThis @tessco.net> wrote:
> fries... DeleteThis @zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
>
> > Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and then
> > save them with new names without typing in the repeated names?
>
> Tat's a *batch* of jpeg files you say?
> You did say the word *Batch* didn't you?
> > For
> > example, when I open a batch of RAW files,
>
> So we're definitely talking about renaming a *batch* of files.
> There's definitely no mistake that we're daling with batches here.
Sorry, I should watch my terminolgy. I was thinking batch as in group,
not batch operation. I do not want to do a batch operation. For
example, I want to open 30 photos of a cat named " Sunny" and rename/
save only the photos that I want to keep, maybe 10-15, and instead of
names like IMG_9012, I would like to save them as Sunny01, Sunny02,
etc WITHOUT having to type out the name each time. And without having
to do a batch and then delete the ones I don't want. I save ALL the
original files, so I cannot just delete them and then do a batch
operation.
> But hang on, rewind a bit there.
> In your first paragraph you said you DID want to do this to a batch of Jpeg
> files....
> Or did I imagine you using the word *batch*?
> Make up your mind.
I apologize. I meant that I want to open a group of files, but only
save and rename SOME of the files.
> Use your actions pallette.
> Record the process as you do whatever is necessary to one file.
> Then access the newly recorded action through your File>Automate menu.
> This will allow you to batch process all the files in a pre-determined
> location.
>
> What could be simpler than that?
That requires doing it to ALL the photos in a folder. I want to pick
and choose. AND I want to have the names done with a sequential
number. I have not seen any way to do that in an action. It either
keeps the old name, or it would give the same name to each file.
With the RAW file system, when I choose save, it gives me a dialog
window that lets me setup the sequential naming. And when I switch to
the next cat, I just change the name in one box, and reset the number
to 01. It is perfect. ALl I want is the same thing with non-RAW files.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:35 am
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On Jul 1, 1:03 pm, The Bobert <nob... RemoveThis @nowhere.nowhow> wrote:
> In article <1183282120.726403.37... RemoveThis @i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> "fries...@zoocrewphoto.com" <fries... RemoveThis @zoocrewphoto.com> wrote:
> > Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and then
> > save them with new names without typing in the repeated names?
>
> Check out Renamer4mac at:
> <http://www.power4mac.com/>
>
> Does what you want and is free.
> --
>
This looks like doing a whole folder at a time, which I can do in
photoshop already. Let me explain better what I want.
Let's say I photograph a cat named Sunny. These are the files names I
get from the camera:
IMG_7812
IMG_7813
IMG_7814
IMG_7815
IMG_7816
IMG_7817
IMG_7818
IMG_7819
IMG_7820
IMG_7821
IMG_7822
IMG_7823
IMG_7824
IMG_7825
IMG_7826
IMG_7827
IMG_7828
IMG_7829
When I get home, I will open ALL the files to look at them. As I go
through them, I will decide to use some, but not all. I may choose to
use only 8 of them as proofs for customers. I want the new names to
be Sunny01- Sunny08.
If I do a batch operation with the whole folder, I will end up with
Sunny01 - Sunny19. I will then have to delete the new files that I
don't want, leaving gaps in the numbers. Then my customers will ask to
see the missing numbers.
If I delete the files I don't plan to use, then I may regret it.
Soimetimes, I do go back and salvage a photo I previously culled.
Also, some photos that I know customers won't want may still be good
for my own usage. So, while I do not have time to work with them
today, I do want to save them. I do not want to delete them. I want
the original files to be complete and unedited.
When I shoot RAW files, I just open the whole group of photos for one
cat, and I look at each one and decide to save/rename it or skip it.
With the first photo, I type in the name of the cat, reset the serial
number to 01, and change tthe destination folder. After that, for each
photo that I want to save, I click on save and hit enter. Without any
more typing or hassle, I get this:
IMG_7812 becomes Sunny01
IMG_7814 becomes Sunny02
IMG_7816 becomes Sunny03
IMG_7817 becomes Sunny04
IMG_7819 becomes Sunny05
IMG_7820 becomes Sunny06
IMG_7823 becomes Sunny07
IMG_7824 becomes Sunny08
Exactly what I want. No hassle.
I cannot get this window with these options when using jpg or psd
files. It automatically files in the current name which has to be
changed each time. And if I want to change the location or file type,
I have to choose that EACH time.
When I get back from a cat show, I may have over 600 photos to go
through, and that can easily be 30 different cats with 300-400 of the
photos being saved and renamed. Now, with cats I do use RAW format
all the time. So, this isn't a problem.
But I will be doing more horse shows again as summer is underway. And
for action photos, it helps to use the jpg file format since the
photos will save faster and I don't miss photos while the camera is
saving them. Right now I have to choose. Ease with shooting, or ease
with post-production. It would be nice to have the best of both. >> Stay informed about: I open Jpg. files in Raw |
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:55 am
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friesian.RemoveThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> On Jul 1, 8:40 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....RemoveThis@tessco.net> wrote:
>> fries....RemoveThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
>
>>
>>> Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and
>>> then save them with new names without typing in the repeated names?
>>
>> Tat's a *batch* of jpeg files you say?
>> You did say the word *Batch* didn't you?
>
>>> For
>>> example, when I open a batch of RAW files,
>>
>> So we're definitely talking about renaming a *batch* of files.
>> There's definitely no mistake that we're daling with batches here.
>
>
>
>
> Sorry, I should watch my terminolgy. I was thinking batch as in group,
> not batch operation. I do not want to do a batch operation. For
> example, I want to open 30 photos of a cat named " Sunny" and rename/
> save only the photos that I want to keep, maybe 10-15, and instead of
> names like IMG_9012, I would like to save them as Sunny01, Sunny02,
> etc WITHOUT having to type out the name each time. And without having
> to do a batch and then delete the ones I don't want. I save ALL the
> original files, so I cannot just delete them and then do a batch
> operation.
>
>> But hang on, rewind a bit there.
>> In your first paragraph you said you DID want to do this to a batch
>> of Jpeg files....
>> Or did I imagine you using the word *batch*?
>> Make up your mind.
>
>
> I apologize. I meant that I want to open a group of files, but only
> save and rename SOME of the files.
>
>
>> Use your actions pallette.
>> Record the process as you do whatever is necessary to one file.
>> Then access the newly recorded action through your File>Automate
>> menu. This will allow you to batch process all the files in a
>> pre-determined location.
>>
>> What could be simpler than that?
>
> That requires doing it to ALL the photos in a folder. I want to pick
> and choose. AND I want to have the names done with a sequential
> number. I have not seen any way to do that in an action. It either
> keeps the old name, or it would give the same name to each file.
You can still do that with the Actions pallette.
> With the RAW file system, when I choose save, it gives me a dialog
> window that lets me setup the sequential naming. And when I switch to
> the next cat, I just change the name in one box, and reset the number
> to 01. It is perfect. ALl I want is the same thing with non-RAW files.
> What could be more simple than that?
Actions pallette.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:48 am
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On Jul 2, 3:30 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....TakeThisOut@tessco.net> wrote:
> fries....TakeThisOut@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> > On Jul 1, 8:40 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....TakeThisOut@tessco.net> wrote:
> >> fries....TakeThisOut@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
>
> >>> Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and
> >>> then save them with new names without typing in the repeated names?
>
> >> Tat's a *batch* of jpeg files you say?
> >> You did say the word *Batch* didn't you?
>
> >>> For
> >>> example, when I open a batch of RAW files,
>
> >> So we're definitely talking about renaming a *batch* of files.
> >> There's definitely no mistake that we're daling with batches here.
>
> > Sorry, I should watch my terminolgy. I was thinking batch as in group,
> > not batch operation. I do not want to do a batch operation. For
> > example, I want to open 30 photos of a cat named " Sunny" and rename/
> > save only the photos that I want to keep, maybe 10-15, and instead of
> > names like IMG_9012, I would like to save them as Sunny01, Sunny02,
> > etc WITHOUT having to type out the name each time. And without having
> > to do a batch and then delete the ones I don't want. I save ALL the
> > original files, so I cannot just delete them and then do a batch
> > operation.
>
> >> But hang on, rewind a bit there.
> >> In your first paragraph you said you DID want to do this to a batch
> >> of Jpeg files....
> >> Or did I imagine you using the word *batch*?
> >> Make up your mind.
>
> > I apologize. I meant that I want to open a group of files, but only
> > save and rename SOME of the files.
>
> >> Use your actions pallette.
> >> Record the process as you do whatever is necessary to one file.
> >> Then access the newly recorded action through your File>Automate
> >> menu. This will allow you to batch process all the files in a
> >> pre-determined location.
>
> >> What could be simpler than that?
>
> > That requires doing it to ALL the photos in a folder. I want to pick
> > and choose. AND I want to have the names done with a sequential
> > number. I have not seen any way to do that in an action. It either
> > keeps the old name, or it would give the same name to each file.
>
> You can still do that with the Actions pallette.
>
> > With the RAW file system, when I choose save, it gives me a dialog
> > window that lets me setup the sequential naming. And when I switch to
> > the next cat, I just change the name in one box, and reset the number
> > to 01. It is perfect. ALl I want is the same thing with non-RAW files.
> > What could be more simple than that?
>
> Actions pallette.
> Perhaps it's time for you to pay a visit to our old friend, Google.
An action records one name. How is an action going to change the file
name each time to a new file name with a consecutive number??? Also,
saving an action simply records the steps I take while it is
recording. There is no option within photoshop while working with a
jpg or psd file to set up the consecutive naming, so how would that
ever get recorded?
Hell, I can't even get it to change the location without having to
resave the action. It was always saving the files to the original
folder I set it to when I saved the action. I finally made a specific
folder for the results of all batch operations, and then I have to go
and move them to the folder I want. This function with RAW files skips
that step completely.
I do have actions for saving files as a new format when I want the
name and location to be the same. And that works quite well. But if
there were a selection for consecutive naming in the regular save
dialog, I wouldn't be asking about it. If I can't do it for one file,
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:56 am
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friesian.TakeThisOut@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> On Jul 2, 3:30 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....TakeThisOut@tessco.net> wrote:
>> fries....TakeThisOut@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
>>> On Jul 1, 8:40 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....TakeThisOut@tessco.net> wrote:
>>>> fries....TakeThisOut@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
>>
>>>>> Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and
>>>>> then save them with new names without typing in the repeated
>>>>> names?
>>
>>>> Tat's a *batch* of jpeg files you say?
>>>> You did say the word *Batch* didn't you?
>>
>>>>> For
>>>>> example, when I open a batch of RAW files,
>>
>>>> So we're definitely talking about renaming a *batch* of files.
>>>> There's definitely no mistake that we're daling with batches here.
>>
>>> Sorry, I should watch my terminolgy. I was thinking batch as in
>>> group, not batch operation. I do not want to do a batch operation.
>>> For example, I want to open 30 photos of a cat named " Sunny" and
>>> rename/ save only the photos that I want to keep, maybe 10-15, and
>>> instead of names like IMG_9012, I would like to save them as
>>> Sunny01, Sunny02, etc WITHOUT having to type out the name each
>>> time. And without having to do a batch and then delete the ones I
>>> don't want. I save ALL the original files, so I cannot just delete
>>> them and then do a batch operation.
>>
>>>> But hang on, rewind a bit there.
>>>> In your first paragraph you said you DID want to do this to a batch
>>>> of Jpeg files....
>>>> Or did I imagine you using the word *batch*?
>>>> Make up your mind.
>>
>>> I apologize. I meant that I want to open a group of files, but only
>>> save and rename SOME of the files.
>>
>>>> Use your actions pallette.
>>>> Record the process as you do whatever is necessary to one file.
>>>> Then access the newly recorded action through your File>Automate
>>>> menu. This will allow you to batch process all the files in a
>>>> pre-determined location.
>>
>>>> What could be simpler than that?
>>
>>> That requires doing it to ALL the photos in a folder. I want to pick
>>> and choose. AND I want to have the names done with a sequential
>>> number. I have not seen any way to do that in an action. It either
>>> keeps the old name, or it would give the same name to each file.
>>
>> You can still do that with the Actions pallette.
>>
>>> With the RAW file system, when I choose save, it gives me a dialog
>>> window that lets me setup the sequential naming. And when I switch
>>> to the next cat, I just change the name in one box, and reset the
>>> number to 01. It is perfect. ALl I want is the same thing with
>>> non-RAW files. What could be more simple than that?
>>
>> Actions pallette.
>> Perhaps it's time for you to pay a visit to our old friend, Google.
>
>
>
> An action records one name.
An action can be set to record numerically, alphabetically or
alphanumerically sequential names.
You aren't using Actions to their fullest potential, or else you simply
aren't doing it right.
Actions are an immensely powerfull part of photoshop, and if you take the
time to learn about them, you'll find they can in fact do everything you're
demanding.
Just because you haven't figured out how to make them do what you want,
doesn't mean they can't do it.
I have used Actions quite successfully in the past for exactly the sort of
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:56 am
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friesian.DeleteThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> On Jul 2, 3:30 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....DeleteThis@tessco.net> wrote:
>> fries....DeleteThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
>>> On Jul 1, 8:40 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....DeleteThis@tessco.net> wrote:
>>>> fries....DeleteThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
>>>>> Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and
>>>>> then save them with new names without typing in the repeated names?
>>>> Tat's a *batch* of jpeg files you say?
>>>> You did say the word *Batch* didn't you?
>>>>> For
>>>>> example, when I open a batch of RAW files,
>>>> So we're definitely talking about renaming a *batch* of files.
>>>> There's definitely no mistake that we're daling with batches here.
>>> Sorry, I should watch my terminolgy. I was thinking batch as in group,
>>> not batch operation. I do not want to do a batch operation. For
>>> example, I want to open 30 photos of a cat named " Sunny" and rename/
>>> save only the photos that I want to keep, maybe 10-15, and instead of
>>> names like IMG_9012, I would like to save them as Sunny01, Sunny02,
>>> etc WITHOUT having to type out the name each time. And without having
>>> to do a batch and then delete the ones I don't want. I save ALL the
>>> original files, so I cannot just delete them and then do a batch
>>> operation.
>>>> But hang on, rewind a bit there.
>>>> In your first paragraph you said you DID want to do this to a batch
>>>> of Jpeg files....
>>>> Or did I imagine you using the word *batch*?
>>>> Make up your mind.
>>> I apologize. I meant that I want to open a group of files, but only
>>> save and rename SOME of the files.
>>>> Use your actions pallette.
>>>> Record the process as you do whatever is necessary to one file.
>>>> Then access the newly recorded action through your File>Automate
>>>> menu. This will allow you to batch process all the files in a
>>>> pre-determined location.
>>>> What could be simpler than that?
>>> That requires doing it to ALL the photos in a folder. I want to pick
>>> and choose. AND I want to have the names done with a sequential
>>> number. I have not seen any way to do that in an action. It either
>>> keeps the old name, or it would give the same name to each file.
>> You can still do that with the Actions pallette.
>>
>>> With the RAW file system, when I choose save, it gives me a dialog
>>> window that lets me setup the sequential naming. And when I switch to
>>> the next cat, I just change the name in one box, and reset the number
>>> to 01. It is perfect. ALl I want is the same thing with non-RAW files.
>>> What could be more simple than that?
>> Actions pallette.
>> Perhaps it's time for you to pay a visit to our old friend, Google.
>
>
>
> An action records one name. How is an action going to change the file
> name each time to a new file name with a consecutive number??? Also,
> saving an action simply records the steps I take while it is
> recording. There is no option within photoshop while working with a
> jpg or psd file to set up the consecutive naming, so how would that
> ever get recorded?
>
> Hell, I can't even get it to change the location without having to
> resave the action. It was always saving the files to the original
> folder I set it to when I saved the action. I finally made a specific
> folder for the results of all batch operations, and then I have to go
> and move them to the folder I want. This function with RAW files skips
> that step completely.
>
> I do have actions for saving files as a new format when I want the
> name and location to be the same. And that works quite well. But if
> there were a selection for consecutive naming in the regular save
> dialog, I wouldn't be asking about it. If I can't do it for one file,
> I don't see how I can make an action out of it.
>
You can set the renaming/numbering conventions in the automate>batch
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:23 pm
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On Jul 3, 5:25 am, news <n....RemoveThis@youknow.where> wrote:
> fries....RemoveThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> > On Jul 2, 3:30 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....RemoveThis@tessco.net> wrote:
> >> fries....RemoveThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> >>> On Jul 1, 8:40 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....RemoveThis@tessco.net> wrote:
> >>>> fries....RemoveThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> >>>>> Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and
> >>>>> then save them with new names without typing in the repeated names?
> >>>> Tat's a *batch* of jpeg files you say?
> >>>> You did say the word *Batch* didn't you?
> >>>>> For
> >>>>> example, when I open a batch of RAW files,
> >>>> So we're definitely talking about renaming a *batch* of files.
> >>>> There's definitely no mistake that we're daling with batches here.
> >>> Sorry, I should watch my terminolgy. I was thinking batch as in group,
> >>> not batch operation. I do not want to do a batch operation. For
> >>> example, I want to open 30 photos of a cat named " Sunny" and rename/
> >>> save only the photos that I want to keep, maybe 10-15, and instead of
> >>> names like IMG_9012, I would like to save them as Sunny01, Sunny02,
> >>> etc WITHOUT having to type out the name each time. And without having
> >>> to do a batch and then delete the ones I don't want. I save ALL the
> >>> original files, so I cannot just delete them and then do a batch
> >>> operation.
> >>>> But hang on, rewind a bit there.
> >>>> In your first paragraph you said you DID want to do this to a batch
> >>>> of Jpeg files....
> >>>> Or did I imagine you using the word *batch*?
> >>>> Make up your mind.
> >>> I apologize. I meant that I want to open a group of files, but only
> >>> save and rename SOME of the files.
> >>>> Use your actions pallette.
> >>>> Record the process as you do whatever is necessary to one file.
> >>>> Then access the newly recorded action through your File>Automate
> >>>> menu. This will allow you to batch process all the files in a
> >>>> pre-determined location.
> >>>> What could be simpler than that?
> >>> That requires doing it to ALL the photos in a folder. I want to pick
> >>> and choose. AND I want to have the names done with a sequential
> >>> number. I have not seen any way to do that in an action. It either
> >>> keeps the old name, or it would give the same name to each file.
> >> You can still do that with the Actions pallette.
>
> >>> With the RAW file system, when I choose save, it gives me a dialog
> >>> window that lets me setup the sequential naming. And when I switch to
> >>> the next cat, I just change the name in one box, and reset the number
> >>> to 01. It is perfect. ALl I want is the same thing with non-RAW files.
> >>> What could be more simple than that?
> >> Actions pallette.
> >> Perhaps it's time for you to pay a visit to our old friend, Google.
>
> > An action records one name. How is an action going to change the file
> > name each time to a new file name with a consecutive number??? Also,
> > saving an action simply records the steps I take while it is
> > recording. There is no option within photoshop while working with a
> > jpg or psd file to set up the consecutive naming, so how would that
> > ever get recorded?
>
> > Hell, I can't even get it to change the location without having to
> > resave the action. It was always saving the files to the original
> > folder I set it to when I saved the action. I finally made a specific
> > folder for the results of all batch operations, and then I have to go
> > and move them to the folder I want. This function with RAW files skips
> > that step completely.
>
> > I do have actions for saving files as a new format when I want the
> > name and location to be the same. And that works quite well. But if
> > there were a selection for consecutive naming in the regular save
> > dialog, I wouldn't be asking about it. If I can't do it for one file,
> > I don't see how I can make an action out of it.
>
> You can set the renaming/numbering conventions in the automate>batch
> dialogue box.
That would be great if I wanted to do every photo in the folder. I
don't. That was my whole point. I want to do this one at a time as I
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:30 pm
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On Jul 3, 3:50 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....RemoveThis@tessco.net> wrote:
> fries....RemoveThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> > On Jul 2, 3:30 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....RemoveThis@tessco.net> wrote:
> >> fries....RemoveThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> >>> On Jul 1, 8:40 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....RemoveThis@tessco.net> wrote:
> >>>> fries....RemoveThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
>
> >>>>> Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and
> >>>>> then save them with new names without typing in the repeated
> >>>>> names?
>
> >>>> Tat's a *batch* of jpeg files you say?
> >>>> You did say the word *Batch* didn't you?
>
> >>>>> For
> >>>>> example, when I open a batch of RAW files,
>
> >>>> So we're definitely talking about renaming a *batch* of files.
> >>>> There's definitely no mistake that we're daling with batches here.
>
> >>> Sorry, I should watch my terminolgy. I was thinking batch as in
> >>> group, not batch operation. I do not want to do a batch operation.
> >>> For example, I want to open 30 photos of a cat named " Sunny" and
> >>> rename/ save only the photos that I want to keep, maybe 10-15, and
> >>> instead of names like IMG_9012, I would like to save them as
> >>> Sunny01, Sunny02, etc WITHOUT having to type out the name each
> >>> time. And without having to do a batch and then delete the ones I
> >>> don't want. I save ALL the original files, so I cannot just delete
> >>> them and then do a batch operation.
>
> >>>> But hang on, rewind a bit there.
> >>>> In your first paragraph you said you DID want to do this to a batch
> >>>> of Jpeg files....
> >>>> Or did I imagine you using the word *batch*?
> >>>> Make up your mind.
>
> >>> I apologize. I meant that I want to open a group of files, but only
> >>> save and rename SOME of the files.
>
> >>>> Use your actions pallette.
> >>>> Record the process as you do whatever is necessary to one file.
> >>>> Then access the newly recorded action through your File>Automate
> >>>> menu. This will allow you to batch process all the files in a
> >>>> pre-determined location.
>
> >>>> What could be simpler than that?
>
> >>> That requires doing it to ALL the photos in a folder. I want to pick
> >>> and choose. AND I want to have the names done with a sequential
> >>> number. I have not seen any way to do that in an action. It either
> >>> keeps the old name, or it would give the same name to each file.
>
> >> You can still do that with the Actions pallette.
>
> >>> With the RAW file system, when I choose save, it gives me a dialog
> >>> window that lets me setup the sequential naming. And when I switch
> >>> to the next cat, I just change the name in one box, and reset the
> >>> number to 01. It is perfect. ALl I want is the same thing with
> >>> non-RAW files. What could be more simple than that?
>
> >> Actions pallette.
> >> Perhaps it's time for you to pay a visit to our old friend, Google.
>
> > An action records one name.
>
> An action can be set to record numerically, alphabetically or
> alphanumerically sequential names.
> You aren't using Actions to their fullest potential, or else you simply
> aren't doing it right.
> Actions are an immensely powerfull part of photoshop, and if you take the
> time to learn about them, you'll find they can in fact do everything you're
> demanding.
> Just because you haven't figured out how to make them do what you want,
> doesn't mean they can't do it.
> I have used Actions quite successfully in the past for exactly the sort of
> tasks you're describing, so I know they can do it.
Then I must be stupid. I record an action by doing the steps I want to
do in a photo.
I cannot find any step that allowed me to change the name while I save
the file. I have tried OS dialog and Photoshop Dialog. There is a
blank to type in the file name, but I don't see anything for a series.
I get the same window whether I am recording an action or saving the
file normally.
The ONLY way I see to do the series is in AUTOMATE.
I believe I have mentioned several times that I do not want to do
this. That means I would have to do the whole folder at once and then
delete all the files I don't want renamed. Then I would either have
missing numbers, or I would have to manually rename the higher numbers
to fill in the gaps. I do not want to do this.
I want to do this one photo at a time. Each time I hit save, I want it
to automatically bump to the next number in the series.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:29 pm
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<friesian.DeleteThis@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 1, 1:03 pm, The Bobert <nob....DeleteThis@nowhere.nowhow> wrote:
>> In article <1183282120.726403.37....DeleteThis@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> "fries...@zoocrewphoto.com" <fries....DeleteThis@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote:
>> > Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and then
>> > save them with new names without typing in the repeated names?
>>
>> Check out Renamer4mac at:
>> <http://www.power4mac.com/>
>>
>> Does what you want and is free.
>> --
>>
>
> This looks like doing a whole folder at a time, which I can do in
> photoshop already. Let me explain better what I want.
>
> Let's say I photograph a cat named Sunny. These are the files names I
> get from the camera:
>
> IMG_7812
> IMG_7813
> IMG_7814
> IMG_7815
> IMG_7816
> IMG_7817
> IMG_7818
> IMG_7819
> IMG_7820
> IMG_7821
> IMG_7822
> IMG_7823
> IMG_7824
> IMG_7825
> IMG_7826
> IMG_7827
> IMG_7828
> IMG_7829
>
> When I get home, I will open ALL the files to look at them. As I go
> through them, I will decide to use some, but not all. I may choose to
> use only 8 of them as proofs for customers. I want the new names to
> be Sunny01- Sunny08.
>
> If I do a batch operation with the whole folder, I will end up with
> Sunny01 - Sunny19. I will then have to delete the new files that I
> don't want, leaving gaps in the numbers. Then my customers will ask to
> see the missing numbers.
>
> If I delete the files I don't plan to use, then I may regret it.
> Soimetimes, I do go back and salvage a photo I previously culled.
> Also, some photos that I know customers won't want may still be good
> for my own usage. So, while I do not have time to work with them
> today, I do want to save them. I do not want to delete them. I want
> the original files to be complete and unedited.
>
> When I shoot RAW files, I just open the whole group of photos for one
> cat, and I look at each one and decide to save/rename it or skip it.
> With the first photo, I type in the name of the cat, reset the serial
> number to 01, and change tthe destination folder. After that, for each
> photo that I want to save, I click on save and hit enter. Without any
> more typing or hassle, I get this:
>
> IMG_7812 becomes Sunny01
> IMG_7814 becomes Sunny02
> IMG_7816 becomes Sunny03
> IMG_7817 becomes Sunny04
> IMG_7819 becomes Sunny05
> IMG_7820 becomes Sunny06
> IMG_7823 becomes Sunny07
> IMG_7824 becomes Sunny08
>
> Exactly what I want. No hassle.
>
> I cannot get this window with these options when using jpg or psd
> files. It automatically files in the current name which has to be
> changed each time. And if I want to change the location or file type,
> I have to choose that EACH time.
>
> When I get back from a cat show, I may have over 600 photos to go
> through, and that can easily be 30 different cats with 300-400 of the
> photos being saved and renamed. Now, with cats I do use RAW format
> all the time. So, this isn't a problem.
>
> But I will be doing more horse shows again as summer is underway. And
> for action photos, it helps to use the jpg file format since the
> photos will save faster and I don't miss photos while the camera is
> saving them. Right now I have to choose. Ease with shooting, or ease
> with post-production. It would be nice to have the best of both.
>
In Windows it's easy
open folder
control click ones you need to rename
right click choose rename and it will add numbers
if you want to keep the orig number files to make a copy of the selects to a
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:02 pm
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On Jul 3, 3:29 pm, "KatWoman" <spamf....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <fries....TakeThisOut@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1183365356.896541.30020@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jul 1, 1:03 pm, The Bobert <nob....TakeThisOut@nowhere.nowhow> wrote:
> >> In article <1183282120.726403.37....TakeThisOut@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >> "fries...@zoocrewphoto.com" <fries....TakeThisOut@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote:
> >> > Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and then
> >> > save them with new names without typing in the repeated names?
>
> >> Check out Renamer4mac at:
> >> <http://www.power4mac.com/>
>
> >> Does what you want and is free.
> >> --
>
> > This looks like doing a whole folder at a time, which I can do in
> > photoshop already. Let me explain better what I want.
>
> > Let's say I photograph a cat named Sunny. These are the files names I
> > get from the camera:
>
> > IMG_7812
> > IMG_7813
> > IMG_7814
> > IMG_7815
> > IMG_7816
> > IMG_7817
> > IMG_7818
> > IMG_7819
> > IMG_7820
> > IMG_7821
> > IMG_7822
> > IMG_7823
> > IMG_7824
> > IMG_7825
> > IMG_7826
> > IMG_7827
> > IMG_7828
> > IMG_7829
>
> > When I get home, I will open ALL the files to look at them. As I go
> > through them, I will decide to use some, but not all. I may choose to
> > use only 8 of them as proofs for customers. I want the new names to
> > be Sunny01- Sunny08.
>
> > If I do a batch operation with the whole folder, I will end up with
> > Sunny01 - Sunny19. I will then have to delete the new files that I
> > don't want, leaving gaps in the numbers. Then my customers will ask to
> > see the missing numbers.
>
> > If I delete the files I don't plan to use, then I may regret it.
> > Soimetimes, I do go back and salvage a photo I previously culled.
> > Also, some photos that I know customers won't want may still be good
> > for my own usage. So, while I do not have time to work with them
> > today, I do want to save them. I do not want to delete them. I want
> > the original files to be complete and unedited.
>
> > When I shoot RAW files, I just open the whole group of photos for one
> > cat, and I look at each one and decide to save/rename it or skip it.
> > With the first photo, I type in the name of the cat, reset the serial
> > number to 01, and change tthe destination folder. After that, for each
> > photo that I want to save, I click on save and hit enter. Without any
> > more typing or hassle, I get this:
>
> > IMG_7812 becomes Sunny01
> > IMG_7814 becomes Sunny02
> > IMG_7816 becomes Sunny03
> > IMG_7817 becomes Sunny04
> > IMG_7819 becomes Sunny05
> > IMG_7820 becomes Sunny06
> > IMG_7823 becomes Sunny07
> > IMG_7824 becomes Sunny08
>
> > Exactly what I want. No hassle.
>
> > I cannot get this window with these options when using jpg or psd
> > files. It automatically files in the current name which has to be
> > changed each time. And if I want to change the location or file type,
> > I have to choose that EACH time.
>
> > When I get back from a cat show, I may have over 600 photos to go
> > through, and that can easily be 30 different cats with 300-400 of the
> > photos being saved and renamed. Now, with cats I do use RAW format
> > all the time. So, this isn't a problem.
>
> > But I will be doing more horse shows again as summer is underway. And
> > for action photos, it helps to use the jpg file format since the
> > photos will save faster and I don't miss photos while the camera is
> > saving them. Right now I have to choose. Ease with shooting, or ease
> > with post-production. It would be nice to have the best of both.
>
> In Windows it's easy
> open folder
> control click ones you need to rename
> right click choose rename and it will add numbers
>
> if you want to keep the orig number files to make a copy of the selects to a
> new folder and rename them in PS or Win
Thanks. Normally, I just type in the new name as I want to do it while
I am editing the files.
The only reason I asked is because it is so much easier to do this
with RAW files, and apparnetly you can open jpg files in CS3 as if
they are RAW files. Somebody asked why anybody would want to do that,
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:08 pm
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On Jul 3, 6:45 pm, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....DeleteThis@tessco.net> wrote:
> fries....DeleteThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> > On Jul 3, 5:25 am, news <n....DeleteThis@youknow.where> wrote:
> >> fries....DeleteThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> >>> On Jul 2, 3:30 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....DeleteThis@tessco.net> wrote:
> >>>> fries....DeleteThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 1, 8:40 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....DeleteThis@tessco.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> fries....DeleteThis@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and
> >>>>>>> then save them with new names without typing in the repeated
> >>>>>>> names?
> >>>>>> Tat's a *batch* of jpeg files you say?
> >>>>>> You did say the word *Batch* didn't you?
> >>>>>>> For
> >>>>>>> example, when I open a batch of RAW files,
> >>>>>> So we're definitely talking about renaming a *batch* of files.
> >>>>>> There's definitely no mistake that we're daling with batches
> >>>>>> here.
> >>>>> Sorry, I should watch my terminolgy. I was thinking batch as in
> >>>>> group, not batch operation. I do not want to do a batch
> >>>>> operation. For example, I want to open 30 photos of a cat named
> >>>>> " Sunny" and rename/ save only the photos that I want to keep,
> >>>>> maybe 10-15, and instead of names like IMG_9012, I would like to
> >>>>> save them as Sunny01, Sunny02, etc WITHOUT having to type out the
> >>>>> name each time. And without having to do a batch and then delete
> >>>>> the ones I don't want. I save ALL the original files, so I cannot
> >>>>> just delete them and then do a batch operation.
> >>>>>> But hang on, rewind a bit there.
> >>>>>> In your first paragraph you said you DID want to do this to a
> >>>>>> batch of Jpeg files....
> >>>>>> Or did I imagine you using the word *batch*?
> >>>>>> Make up your mind.
> >>>>> I apologize. I meant that I want to open a group of files, but
> >>>>> only save and rename SOME of the files.
> >>>>>> Use your actions pallette.
> >>>>>> Record the process as you do whatever is necessary to one file.
> >>>>>> Then access the newly recorded action through your File>Automate
> >>>>>> menu. This will allow you to batch process all the files in a
> >>>>>> pre-determined location.
> >>>>>> What could be simpler than that?
> >>>>> That requires doing it to ALL the photos in a folder. I want to
> >>>>> pick and choose. AND I want to have the names done with a
> >>>>> sequential number. I have not seen any way to do that in an
> >>>>> action. It either keeps the old name, or it would give the same
> >>>>> name to each file.
> >>>> You can still do that with the Actions pallette.
>
> >>>>> With the RAW file system, when I choose save, it gives me a dialog
> >>>>> window that lets me setup the sequential naming. And when I
> >>>>> switch to the next cat, I just change the name in one box, and
> >>>>> reset the number to 01. It is perfect. ALl I want is the same
> >>>>> thing with non-RAW files. What could be more simple than that?
> >>>> Actions pallette.
> >>>> Perhaps it's time for you to pay a visit to our old friend, Google.
>
> >>> An action records one name. How is an action going to change the
> >>> file name each time to a new file name with a consecutive number???
> >>> Also, saving an action simply records the steps I take while it is
> >>> recording. There is no option within photoshop while working with a
> >>> jpg or psd file to set up the consecutive naming, so how would that
> >>> ever get recorded?
>
> >>> Hell, I can't even get it to change the location without having to
> >>> resave the action. It was always saving the files to the original
> >>> folder I set it to when I saved the action. I finally made a
> >>> specific folder for the results of all batch operations, and then I
> >>> have to go and move them to the folder I want. This function with
> >>> RAW files skips that step completely.
>
> >>> I do have actions for saving files as a new format when I want the
> >>> name and location to be the same. And that works quite well. But if
> >>> there were a selection for consecutive naming in the regular save
> >>> dialog, I wouldn't be asking about it. If I can't do it for one
> >>> file, I don't see how I can make an action out of it.
>
> >> You can set the renaming/numbering conventions in the automate>batch
> >> dialogue box.
>
> > That would be great if I wanted to do every photo in the folder. I
> > don't. That was my whole point. I want to do this one at a time as I
> > choose which photos get saved and renamed and which don't.
>
> So put all those photos in a folder and batch process it.
> Simple.
That would require copying the whole batch of 600+ files and saving
two sets - one original set and one set to do the batch operations.
Why would I want to do that?
I keep my photos organized. I have a folder that represents the whole
event. I then have folders for each cat, and then inside that, I had
folders for each file type. So, there will be a folder for the orginal
unedited files, then the saved psd files, saved tiff files, and saved
jpg files.
In order to do as you suggest (which I considered), I would have to
save a new set of the orginal files in a different location, open each
grouping in bridge. Then go through and delete all the ones I don't
want, do batch operation, and then copy all the new files back to the
orginal folder system. What a pain.
With RAW files, I open the group, save/rename each file I want to keep
with 2 clicks per photo. And it's all done. Orginals in one folder,
saved files where I want them. Easy.
All I ask is that I be able to do it the same with psd or jpg files.
Obviously, it can't be done in CS2, but it sounds like it can be done
in CS3. And that sounds like a valid reason to open jpg files as if
they were RAW files - which was the main discussion of this topic, and
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:57 pm
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friesian.TakeThisOut@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
> On Jul 3, 3:50 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....TakeThisOut@tessco.net> wrote:
>> fries....TakeThisOut@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
>>> On Jul 2, 3:30 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....TakeThisOut@tessco.net> wrote:
>>>> fries....TakeThisOut@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 1, 8:40 am, "Fat Sam" <samandjanetk....TakeThisOut@tessco.net> wrote:
>>>>>> fries....TakeThisOut@zoocrewphoto.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Is there a way without RAW mode to open a batch of jpg files and
>>>>>>> then save them with new names without typing in the repeated
>>>>>>> names?
>>
>>>>>> Tat's a *batch* of jpeg files you say?
>>>>>> You did say the word *Batch* didn't you?
>>
>>>>>>> For
>>>>>>> example, when I open a batch of RAW files,
>>
>>>>>> So we're definitely talking about renaming a *batch* of files.
>>>>>> There's definitely no mistake that we're daling with batches
>>>>>> here.
>>
>>>>> Sorry, I should watch my terminolgy. I was thinking batch as in
>>>>> group, not batch operation. I do not want | | |