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thevoiceinyourhead

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:56 pm
Post subject: What data is saved into a PSD (and JPG and GIF)?
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When I save images from my copy of Photoshop for distribution on the
web in the formats JPG and GIF, do they contain any personal data in
the image data? I also provide PSD files for many of the images I
distribute, so will they contain information about my copy of
Photoshop, or my OS etc?

Thanks in advance.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:11 pm
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In article <1186936380.757587.54710 DeleteThis @b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
"sammyc@dodgeit.com" <thevoiceinyourhead DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> When I save images from my copy of Photoshop for distribution on the
> web in the formats JPG and GIF, do they contain any personal data in
> the image data? I also provide PSD files for many of the images I
> distribute, so will they contain information about my copy of
> Photoshop, or my OS etc?

No personal information is embedded in these formats other than
(possibly) EXIF data identifying your digital camera's make, model,
exposure settings, and time, if (a) your camera includes this
information and (b) you don't tell Photoshop to remove it.

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thevoiceinyourhead

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:56 pm
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On Aug 12, 8:11 pm, tacit <tac... RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
> In article <1186936380.757587.54... RemoveThis @b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> "sam...@dodgeit.com" <thevoiceinyourh... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> > When I save images from my copy of Photoshop for distribution on the
> > web in the formats JPG and GIF, do they contain any personal data in
> > the image data? I also provide PSD files for many of the images I
> > distribute, so will they contain information about my copy of
> > Photoshop, or my OS etc?
>
> No personal information is embedded in these formats other than
> (possibly) EXIF data identifying your digital camera's make, model,
> exposure settings, and time, if (a) your camera includes this
> information and (b) you don't tell Photoshop to remove it.
>
> --
> Photography, kink, polyamory, shareware, and more: all athttp://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

Thank you very much.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:44 pm
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sammyc.RemoveThis@dodgeit.com <thevoiceinyourhead.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> When I save images from my copy of Photoshop for distribution on the
> web in the formats JPG and GIF, do they contain any personal data in
> the image data? I also provide PSD files for many of the images I
> distribute, so will they contain information about my copy of
> Photoshop, or my OS etc?
>
> Thanks in advance.

If you look at the 'File Info' window for the PSD, you'll see all the
information stored with the PSD.

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tony cooper

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:35 pm
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On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:11:34 -0400, tacit <tacitr.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:

>In article <1186936380.757587.54710.TakeThisOut@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> "sammyc@dodgeit.com" <thevoiceinyourhead.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> When I save images from my copy of Photoshop for distribution on the
>> web in the formats JPG and GIF, do they contain any personal data in
>> the image data? I also provide PSD files for many of the images I
>> distribute, so will they contain information about my copy of
>> Photoshop, or my OS etc?
>
>No personal information is embedded in these formats other than
>(possibly) EXIF data identifying your digital camera's make, model,
>exposure settings, and time, if (a) your camera includes this
>information and (b) you don't tell Photoshop to remove it.

Well, he's saying that he distributes the images on the web. I
suppose it depends on his image host, but you can usually back into
anyone's entire uploaded image output from one image.

Just randomly selecting this image:

http://io-noi-aldo.sonance.net/blogpix/a_napoleon.jpg

we can back into his index

http://io-noi-aldo.sonance.net/blogpix/

There was a flap in another newsgroup over this. A poster linked to
an image hosted by PhotoBucket, and someone backed into the poster's
entire PhotoBucket site. There were some images in there intended to
be...ummm...private.




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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:01 pm
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In article <nb9vb3te4romt3kjg66j77l1ktt4pk649l.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
tony cooper <tony_cooper213.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Well, he's saying that he distributes the images on the web. I
> suppose it depends on his image host, but you can usually back into
> anyone's entire uploaded image output from one image.
>
> Just randomly selecting this image:
>
> http://io-noi-aldo.sonance.net/blogpix/a_napoleon.jpg
>
> we can back into his index
>
> http://io-noi-aldo.sonance.net/blogpix/

That's easily fixed by a simple .htaccess change. In fact, by default,
every Web browser I am aware of blocks viewing the contents of a
directory unless the .htaccess file explicitly permits it. This guy has
set up an .taccess file to allow viewing of the contents of /blogpix. I
do the same thing I have two Web servers I use to host files for my
Weblog (among other things) and I have explicitly permitted viewing the
index of those directories.

However, what I think the OP is asking is whether or not a file saved
from Photoshop contains embedded within it information that can identify
the person or the copy of Photoshop that created it. The answer to this
question is "no."

> There was a flap in another newsgroup over this. A poster linked to
> an image hosted by PhotoBucket, and someone backed into the poster's
> entire PhotoBucket site. There were some images in there intended to
> be...ummm...private.

Well, that person was a dumbass. PhotoBucket,IIRC, allows tagging images
as private...or he could always set up multiple accounts, one for public
images and one for private.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:48 pm
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On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:01:44 -0400, tacit <tacitr.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:

>In article <nb9vb3te4romt3kjg66j77l1ktt4pk649l.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
> tony cooper <tony_cooper213.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Well, he's saying that he distributes the images on the web. I
>> suppose it depends on his image host, but you can usually back into
>> anyone's entire uploaded image output from one image.
>>
>> Just randomly selecting this image:
>>
>> http://io-noi-aldo.sonance.net/blogpix/a_napoleon.jpg
>>
>> we can back into his index
>>
>> http://io-noi-aldo.sonance.net/blogpix/
>
>That's easily fixed by a simple .htaccess change. In fact, by default,
>every Web browser I am aware of blocks viewing the contents of a
>directory unless the .htaccess file explicitly permits it. This guy has
>set up an .taccess file to allow viewing of the contents of /blogpix. I
>do the same thing I have two Web servers I use to host files for my
>Weblog (among other things) and I have explicitly permitted viewing the
>index of those directories.
>
>However, what I think the OP is asking is whether or not a file saved
>from Photoshop contains embedded within it information that can identify
>the person or the copy of Photoshop that created it. The answer to this
>question is "no."
>
>> There was a flap in another newsgroup over this. A poster linked to
>> an image hosted by PhotoBucket, and someone backed into the poster's
>> entire PhotoBucket site. There were some images in there intended to
>> be...ummm...private.
>
>Well, that person was a dumbass. PhotoBucket,IIRC, allows tagging images
>as private

Not the free version. You can with the paid Pro version.

>or he could always set up multiple accounts, one for public
>images and one for private.

Usually, when something embarrassing happens, it's because the person
didn't know "backing in" could be done. It never occurred to them
that there was any need to take any precautions.



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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:58 am
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On Aug 13, 4:48 am, tony cooper <tony_cooper... DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:01:44 -0400, tacit <tac... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
> >In article <nb9vb3te4romt3kjg66j77l1ktt4pk6... DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
> > tony cooper <tony_cooper... DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >> Well, he's saying that he distributes the images on the web. I
> >> suppose it depends on his image host, but you can usually back into
> >> anyone's entire uploaded image output from one image.
>
> >> Just randomly selecting this image:
>
> >>http://io-noi-aldo.sonance.net/blogpix/a_napoleon.jpg
>
> >> we can back into his index
>
> >>http://io-noi-aldo.sonance.net/blogpix/
>
> >That's easily fixed by a simple .htaccess change. In fact, by default,
> >every Web browser I am aware of blocks viewing the contents of a
> >directory unless the .htaccess file explicitly permits it. This guy has
> >set up an .taccess file to allow viewing of the contents of /blogpix. I
> >do the same thing I have two Web servers I use to host files for my
> >Weblog (among other things) and I have explicitly permitted viewing the
> >index of those directories.
>
> >However, what I think the OP is asking is whether or not a file saved
> >from Photoshop contains embedded within it information that can identify
> >the person or the copy of Photoshop that created it. The answer to this
> >question is "no."
>
> >> There was a flap in another newsgroup over this. A poster linked to
> >> an image hosted by PhotoBucket, and someone backed into the poster's
> >> entire PhotoBucket site. There were some images in there intended to
> >> be...ummm...private.
>
> >Well, that person was a dumbass. PhotoBucket,IIRC, allows tagging images
> >as private
>
> Not the free version. You can with the paid Pro version.
>
> >or he could always set up multiple accounts, one for public
> >images and one for private.
>
> Usually, when something embarrassing happens, it's because the person
> didn't know "backing in" could be done. It never occurred to them
> that there was any need to take any precautions.
>
> --
>
> Tony Cooper
> Orlando, FL

Thank you all. I am more knowledgeable about Web Servers than I am
about Photoshop, so I knew that there was a risk of people 'backing
up' to view a directory listing of files.

However, I doubt I will be hosting anything private, and in any case,
I normally edit the .htaccess file or just place an empty index.php
file which gets served to the browser instead of a directory listing.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:34 am
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hi,
this is a area i have been playing with in order to understand...

as the previous reply mentioned , by default no personal data is put into the file.... (unless YOU manually put it in)

however.... the program that the file is save in is inserted!! for example if the file was saved by photshop then that would be there or irvanview or gwspro.. etc... if you don't want them to know specifically that your file was made in or save in photoshop then suggest resave the file in a different program..that resave process will generally replace the photoshop with the name of what ever program that used...

now also you can add info!!! if you go to your photoshop>file menu>file info .... now there you can manually put in all kinds of info into your *.psd file!! and another photoshop user can see that info easily.....

now a couple of things to keep in mind....
1. how much info can be added and viewed is determined by the file format!! some formats will not allow you add any text info,,, many formats will allow a "comment " section and some format like *.psd you can add a lot of stuff .....

2. also the program that used may dictate what text data is displayed... for example... a *.psd file my gwspro will show what program made the psd file and it will show me the "comment section" but it does not show me any other text info that was manually added to the psd file originally ..

note: with a lot of my pictures and graphics i convert/resave i use gwspro which allows me to put in a comment section ... now that comment section is viewable in just about any other graphic program i have.. however... smile.. my photoshop cs doesn't show that specific comment section... don't know why... maybe i just find it in file info..

well anyway.... those are the things I have noticed experimenting...

thevoiceinyourhead wrote:
When I save images from my copy of Photoshop for distribution on the
web in the formats JPG and GIF, do they contain any personal data in
the image data? I also provide PSD files for many of the images I
distribute, so will they contain information about my copy of
Photoshop, or my OS etc?

Thanks in advance.

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