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m...bos

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:58 am
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I am working with TIFF-files in windows XP and photo-shop. When there are
lot of them, aspecially, in Windows XP it works ferry slow. Is there method
to let it work quicker, as quick as JPG- files?

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Joe

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:58 am
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:12:56 +0200, "m...bos" <maart.ridd.RemoveThis@hccnet.nl>
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>I am working with TIFF-files in windows XP and photo-shop. When there are
>lot of them, aspecially, in Windows XP it works ferry slow. Is there method
>to let it work quicker, as quick as JPG- files?
>
Its because there is no compression with TIFF. The ones I manipulate
are above 25mb, where as the equivilent jpg is often less than 300kb.
Unfortunately if you have a directory with 300 files....that is a lot
of work the hdd has to do to open/edit/save etc.


If you use say 6x 10000k raptors drives in raid0 it is much more
bearable Smile


There is too much blood in my alcohol system
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:37 pm
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rmd wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:12:56 +0200, "m...bos" <maart.ridd.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> I am working with TIFF-files in windows XP and photo-shop. When there are
>> lot of them, aspecially, in Windows XP it works ferry slow. Is there method
>> to let it work quicker, as quick as JPG- files?
>>
> Its because there is no compression with TIFF.

Not necessarily true. I usually compress with LZW and jpeg and zip
compression are also options when you save a tiff.


The ones I manipulate
> are above 25mb, where as the equivilent jpg is often less than 300kb.
> Unfortunately if you have a directory with 300 files....that is a lot
> of work the hdd has to do to open/edit/save etc.
>
>
> If you use say 6x 10000k raptors drives in raid0 it is much more
> bearable Smile
>
>
> There is too much blood in my alcohol system


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:58 pm
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:12:56 +0200, "m...bos" <maart.ridd.DeleteThis@hccnet.nl>
wrote:

>I am working with TIFF-files in windows XP and photo-shop. When there are
>lot of them, aspecially, in Windows XP it works ferry slow. Is there method
>to let it work quicker, as quick as JPG- files?
>

Max out the memory that your computer supports. Get a second disc
drive to use as a swap disc - not a single drive with 2 partitions.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:56 pm
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"m...bos" <maart.ridd.TakeThisOut@hccnet.nl> wrote in message
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>I am working with TIFF-files in windows XP and photo-shop. When there are
> lot of them, aspecially, in Windows XP it works ferry slow. Is there
> method
> to let it work quicker, as quick as JPG- files?
>
the tiff are most likely larger files sizes
you need more memory and scratch space as advised

OT question:
Does the compression in TIFF degrade the same way as the JPG?

I have never tried compressing my TIFF's as I was not sure about it
the Mac-Win option does not seem to matter either, both open just fine on
either box?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:34 pm
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KatWoman wrote:
> "m...bos" <maart.ridd DeleteThis @hccnet.nl> wrote in message
> news:4607d4d9$0$737$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl...
>> I am working with TIFF-files in windows XP and photo-shop. When there are
>> lot of them, aspecially, in Windows XP it works ferry slow. Is there
>> method
>> to let it work quicker, as quick as JPG- files?
>>
> the tiff are most likely larger files sizes
> you need more memory and scratch space as advised
>
> OT question:
> Does the compression in TIFF degrade the same way as the JPG?
>
> I have never tried compressing my TIFF's as I was not sure about it
> the Mac-Win option does not seem to matter either, both open just fine on
> either box?
>
>
Depends. LZW is lossless, but jpg is not.

Mac or Win Byte order doesn't matter at all unless you are using certain
old devices or software.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:39 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:30 am
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:19 am
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:30:27 -0500, Joe <Joe.TakeThisOut@dontspam.com> wrote:

>edjh <edjhann.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
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><snip>
>> Depends. LZW is lossless, but jpg is not.
>
> I have been reading this for over decade (2 decades ?) and can you tell me
>the difference between old JPG and current JPG? or may be the difference
>between older and newer program handles JPG?
>
>> Mac or Win Byte order doesn't matter at all unless you are using certain
>> old devices or software.

Just a quick google on jpeg turned up these links. I did not have time
this morning to read them but you can bet I will later on!

http://www.jpeg.org/apps/cinema.html Jpeg and Digital Cameras

http://www.jpeg.org/ The home page
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:27 am
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Joe wrote:
> edjh <edjhann RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>>> Its because there is no compression with TIFF.
>> Not necessarily true. I usually compress with LZW and jpeg and zip
>> compression are also options when you save a tiff.
>
> I think you are looking at wrong or different type of compression (?)

Eh? What does that mean?

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:41 pm
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On Mar 28, 8:30 pm, edjh <edjh... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Right, usually. Did some testing at work a couple years back and found
> that for some reason some tiffs with LZW compression were actually a bit
> larger than without. No idea why. Most were smaller.
[snip]

True. Here are some results from a recent test. Look at the 16-bit
sizes:
http://www.barrypearson.co.uk/articles/hdp/#extra

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:44 pm
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"edjh" <edjhann RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> KatWoman wrote:
>> "m...bos" <maart.ridd RemoveThis @hccnet.nl> wrote in message
>> news:4607d4d9$0$737$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl...
>>> I am working with TIFF-files in windows XP and photo-shop. When there
>>> are
>>> lot of them, aspecially, in Windows XP it works ferry slow. Is there
>>> method
>>> to let it work quicker, as quick as JPG- files?
>>>
>> the tiff are most likely larger files sizes
>> you need more memory and scratch space as advised
>>
>> OT question:
>> Does the compression in TIFF degrade the same way as the JPG?
>>
>> I have never tried compressing my TIFF's as I was not sure about it
>> the Mac-Win option does not seem to matter either, both open just fine on
>> either box?
>>
>>
> Depends. LZW is lossless, but jpg is not.
>
> Mac or Win Byte order doesn't matter at all unless you are using certain
> old devices or software.

OK so for sending over internet I can compress my TIFF's for smaller files
with no compromise.
And I would have the option to leave some layers unflattened, like text and
adjustment
I will try it next time.
seems like a better option than jpg on 12 quality
thanks edjh
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:44 pm
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The file will still be much larger when compared to jpeg, especially if
you are leaving the document layers intact. But LZW compression will
drop the file size a bit.

In article <nXwOh.28192$68.7751@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
"KatWoman" <XXXJoliePrincessKatanaXXX RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK so for sending over internet I can compress my TIFF's for smaller files
> with no compromise.
> And I would have the option to leave some layers unflattened, like text and
> adjustment
> I will try it next time.
> seems like a better option than jpg on 12 quality
> thanks edjh
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