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Bream Rockmetteller

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:34 pm
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Hi!

I was asked to take a photo of the outdoor holiday lights at my place
of work, and I decided to play with HDR and see what happens. I shot
three RAW images (-2EV, normal and +2EV, specifically f/8 at 0.6s, 2.5s
and 10s) with a Canon 40D set at ISO 100 and an EF 16-35mm L series
lens. Images slightly adjusted in ACR then processed in PS CS3 via
Bridge.

I think the result was nice enough, and having 32-bit depth really
helped me to bring out the darker areas without blowing out the lights.
The lack of noise is wonderful. If you're really interested you can get
the 8-bit TIF version at
<http://homepage.mac.com/biff_debris/FileSharing34.html>, but it's
almost 9MB.

Anyway, I was wondering if any HDR proponents here might have any
special tricks or tips they'd like to share?

Thanks,

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:31 pm
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very nice... kk

"Bream Rockmetteller" <bream(dot)rockmetteller(at)mac.com> wrote in message
news:2007120412343816807-breamdotrockmettelleratmaccom@news.panic.com...
> Hi!
>
> I was asked to take a photo of the outdoor holiday lights at my place of
> work, and I decided to play with HDR and see what happens. I shot three
> RAW images (-2EV, normal and +2EV, specifically f/8 at 0.6s, 2.5s and 10s)
> with a Canon 40D set at ISO 100 and an EF 16-35mm L series lens. Images
> slightly adjusted in ACR then processed in PS CS3 via Bridge.
>
> I think the result was nice enough, and having 32-bit depth really helped
> me to bring out the darker areas without blowing out the lights. The lack
> of noise is wonderful. If you're really interested you can get the 8-bit
> TIF version at <http://homepage.mac.com/biff_debris/FileSharing34.html>,
> but it's almost 9MB.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering if any HDR proponents here might have any special
> tricks or tips they'd like to share?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Bream Rockmetteler
> Donaldson's Dog Joy
> 509-540-0301
>

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:08 am
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Bream Rockmetteller wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I was asked to take a photo of the outdoor holiday lights at my place
> of work, and I decided to play with HDR and see what happens. I shot
> three RAW images (-2EV, normal and +2EV, specifically f/8 at 0.6s,
> 2.5s and 10s) with a Canon 40D set at ISO 100 and an EF 16-35mm L
> series lens. Images slightly adjusted in ACR then processed in PS CS3
> via Bridge.
>
> I think the result was nice enough, and having 32-bit depth really
> helped me to bring out the darker areas without blowing out the
> lights. The lack of noise is wonderful. If you're really interested
> you can get the 8-bit TIF version at
> <http://homepage.mac.com/biff_debris/FileSharing34.html>, but it's
> almost 9MB.
>
> Anyway, I was wondering if any HDR proponents here might have any
> special tricks or tips they'd like to share?
>
> Thanks,

I think you've nailed it mate. Judging from what you've produced, I think
it's more appropriate that you give us advice and tips Wink
That's a lovely shot. The HDR is perfectly done. Just the right amount of
tone mapping and definitely not overcooked at all.
This is a shot to be proud of and the company must be really pleased with
it.

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Bream Rockmetteller

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:15 am
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On 2007-12-04 16:08:05 -0800, "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam"
<samandjanet DeleteThis @knox.orangehome.co.uk> said:

> Bream Rockmetteller wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I was asked to take a photo of the outdoor holiday lights at my place
>> of work, and I decided to play with HDR and see what happens. I shot
>> three RAW images (-2EV, normal and +2EV, specifically f/8 at 0.6s,
>> 2.5s and 10s) with a Canon 40D set at ISO 100 and an EF 16-35mm L
>> series lens. Images slightly adjusted in ACR then processed in PS CS3
>> via Bridge.
>>
>> I think the result was nice enough, and having 32-bit depth really
>> helped me to bring out the darker areas without blowing out the
>> lights. The lack of noise is wonderful. If you're really interested
>> you can get the 8-bit TIF version at
>> <http://homepage.mac.com/biff_debris/FileSharing34.html>, but it's
>> almost 9MB.
>>
>> Anyway, I was wondering if any HDR proponents here might have any
>> special tricks or tips they'd like to share?
>>
>> Thanks,
>
> I think you've nailed it mate. Judging from what you've produced, I think
> it's more appropriate that you give us advice and tips Wink
> That's a lovely shot. The HDR is perfectly done. Just the right amount of
> tone mapping and definitely not overcooked at all.
> This is a shot to be proud of and the company must be really pleased with
> it.

Well, thanks for your kind words, but I was hoping for a bit of
constructive input on improving the image. For example, I'd like the
tiny lights to be more pin-point-like and more saturated. My thought is
to take a -3EV exposure instead of the -2EV exposure then saturate the
colors in it prior to HDR processing. Do you think this might be the
right approach or am I talking through my hat?

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:25 pm
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"Bream Rockmetteller" <bream(dot)rockmetteller(at)mac.com> wrote in message
news:2007120508150916807-breamdotrockmettelleratmaccom@news.panic.com...
> On 2007-12-04 16:08:05 -0800, "\(not quite so\) Fat Sam"
> <samandjanet DeleteThis @knox.orangehome.co.uk> said:
>
>> Bream Rockmetteller wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I was asked to take a photo of the outdoor holiday lights at my place
>>> of work, and I decided to play with HDR and see what happens. I shot
>>> three RAW images (-2EV, normal and +2EV, specifically f/8 at 0.6s,
>>> 2.5s and 10s) with a Canon 40D set at ISO 100 and an EF 16-35mm L
>>> series lens. Images slightly adjusted in ACR then processed in PS CS3
>>> via Bridge.
>>>
>>> I think the result was nice enough, and having 32-bit depth really
>>> helped me to bring out the darker areas without blowing out the
>>> lights. The lack of noise is wonderful. If you're really interested
>>> you can get the 8-bit TIF version at
>>> <http://homepage.mac.com/biff_debris/FileSharing34.html>, but it's
>>> almost 9MB.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I was wondering if any HDR proponents here might have any
>>> special tricks or tips they'd like to share?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>
>> I think you've nailed it mate. Judging from what you've produced, I think
>> it's more appropriate that you give us advice and tips Wink
>> That's a lovely shot. The HDR is perfectly done. Just the right amount of
>> tone mapping and definitely not overcooked at all.
>> This is a shot to be proud of and the company must be really pleased with
>> it.
>
> Well, thanks for your kind words, but I was hoping for a bit of
> constructive input on improving the image. For example, I'd like the tiny
> lights to be more pin-point-like and more saturated. My thought is to take
> a -3EV exposure instead of the -2EV exposure then saturate the colors in
> it prior to HDR processing. Do you think this might be the right approach
> or am I talking through my hat?
>
> --
> Bream Rockmetteler
> Donaldson's Dog Joy
> 509-540-0301
>

I took a peek and thought it was done quite well too.

The nice thing is you can experiment. Make many exposures, bracket the
aperture as well as the shutter for different effects on the lights. Then
take a look at all the raw images and layer in what you want to use from
each one.

Try doing the HDR manually with layers and masks.

Above all, have fun!
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:21 pm
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:15:09 -0800, Bream Rockmetteller
<bream(dot)rockmetteller(at)mac.com> wrote:

>Well, thanks for your kind words, but I was hoping for a bit of
>constructive input on improving the image. For example, I'd like the
>tiny lights to be more pin-point-like and more saturated. My thought is
>to take a -3EV exposure instead of the -2EV exposure then saturate the
>colors in it prior to HDR processing. Do you think this might be the
>right approach or am I talking through my hat?

It looks good BR, and experimenting might be the best way to see what
you can achieve. Photoshop isn't the best software for doing HDR
processing. I'd suggest Photomatix Pro ( http://www.hdrsoft.com/ )
for HDR work. It might give you the results you're looking for.

Talker
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:21 pm
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On 2007-12-05 14:21:47 -0800, Talker <Talker.RemoveThis@thegood.com> said:

> On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:15:09 -0800, Bream Rockmetteller
> <bream(dot)rockmetteller(at)mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, thanks for your kind words, but I was hoping for a bit of
>> constructive input on improving the image. For example, I'd like the
>> tiny lights to be more pin-point-like and more saturated. My thought is
>> to take a -3EV exposure instead of the -2EV exposure then saturate the
>> colors in it prior to HDR processing. Do you think this might be the
>> right approach or am I talking through my hat?
>
> It looks good BR, and experimenting might be the best way to see what
> you can achieve. Photoshop isn't the best software for doing HDR
> processing. I'd suggest Photomatix Pro ( http://www.hdrsoft.com/ )
> for HDR work. It might give you the results you're looking for.
>
> Talker

Thanks, Talker!

Their Tone Mapping plug-in would appear to do the kind of things I'm
looking for, and $70 isn't bad. On the other hand, I wouldn't be
surprised that similar adjustments can be made in Photoshop without the
plug-in. I notice that most of their comparisons are against
Photoshop's default settings. Also, some of the new settings in ACR
(such as vibrance and clarity) might work if I play with them on the
RAW files prior to HDR processing.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:41 pm
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In message
<2007120412343816807-breamdotrockmettelleratmaccom.DeleteThis@news.panic.com>,
Bream Rockmetteller <bream.DeleteThis@rockmetteller.mac.com.invalid> writes
>Hi!
>
>I was asked to take a photo of the outdoor holiday lights at my place
>of work, and I decided to play with HDR and see what happens. I shot
>three RAW images (-2EV, normal and +2EV, specifically f/8 at 0.6s, 2.5s
>and 10s) with a Canon 40D set at ISO 100 and an EF 16-35mm L series
>lens. Images slightly adjusted in ACR then processed in PS CS3 via Bridge.
>
>I think the result was nice enough, and having 32-bit depth really
>helped me to bring out the darker areas without blowing out the lights.
>The lack of noise is wonderful. If you're really interested you can get
>the 8-bit TIF version at
><http://homepage.mac.com/biff_debris/FileSharing34.html>, but it's
>almost 9MB.
>
>Anyway, I was wondering if any HDR proponents here might have any
>special tricks or tips they'd like to share?

Stunning. Has all the advantages of HDR, but without those horrible flat
tones.

Keep up the good work!

Mike

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